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Topic: Bushnell Trophy 1x28 red/green dot, 4 reticle sight - ?

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I wanted a better red dot than the $30 BSA cheapie I had, but I didn't have $200-$450 for one of the really nice ones.  So, I got an $80 Bushnell red/green dot with 4 reticles you can dial up.  So I got it an put it on my AR 16" carbine.  It's an addictively fun sight, especially with the 65MOA circle and the little (3 MOA?) dot inside of that.  I've only had a week or two to play with it and the first week I screwed up and didn't have the rings fully tightened down, so I can't blame that week's wondering zero on the scope.

My annoyance is that the knob that selects the reticle is jammed up now.  It's a good thing it's on the big&little dot combo that I like, cuz' that's where it's staying.  Something's wrong in there and the reticle change knob won't change positions now except with great force, obviously too much to be good for the thing.  I did get it to change to the plus sign reticle (whatever was one position up) but when I put it back on the big dot & little dot together, the zero was about 6-8" off high at 50 yards.  Got it rezeroed again.  So, I sure hope the next range trip that it's holding it's zero.  All I expect to do with this thing is plink, and this AR is probably what I'd pick up if the zombies attack my neighborhood. 

How annoyed would you be at this?  I don't care about not having the other reticles since once I tried them I didn't find them all that handy.  But if this was a piece of gear related to my job, I'd get it fixed properly right away.  Since this is pretty much recreational, I'm not sure how much trouble it's worth going through for an $80 scope. 
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I'd take that Bushnell and send it in for repair, if the switch isn't switching, there is a problem... and it sounds like the reticle switch is out of position, meaning it is not going to adjust and hold zero properly.
The Trophy is usually a decent red dot and does quite well, but yours just has a glitch. Your store should just exchange it for you.

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Ah, that makes a lot of sense, guess I need to do that.  It's inconvenient b/c I bought it online (Graf's).  If I send it to Bushnell it's $10 plus shipping to get it there.  I think I'll call Graf's and see if I can get anywhere with them first.  Knowing about a problem with the internals causing a wandering zero would just annoy the hell out of me, I will get this fixed one way or the other now.
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Well s-word.  It's under warranty but I have to include $10 for those a-holes to ship it back to me.  It's only $10 but it's a bit annoying, guess that's the way it is.  I hope I can get it fixed or it's replacement back ricky tick, I really like having a red dot sight on an AR.
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Well I just spent $25 ($15 to ship it and $10 on return postage) to fix an $80 scope, but I'll be glad to get this fixed/replaced.  Thanks again Ogre for pointing out the obvious reason to get it taken care of.
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You had to pay for the shipping? Dude. At my shop, you buy it from us, we ship it back for you... when it comes back, the fee is only 7.50. Done.
Yeah, you can buy somethings cheaper online... but the service from your local shop should be better. Ours is.

(I like my little store)

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I've tried those and the problem I has was that the various reticle patterns weren't aligned to one another. So you'd zero in the reticle and then switch to another reticle and it'd be way to heck and gone off.

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I've tried those and the problem I has was that the various reticle patterns weren't aligned to one another. So you'd zero in the reticle and then switch to another reticle and it'd be way to heck and gone off.

I thought I was seeing the same effect, but it turned out that first range trip with it I didn't have the rings tightened very well and maybe this other problem was at work too. Perhaps I'm slowly making progress though. My first red dot was a $40 BSA cheap that kept having electrical contact problems until I tightened the bejesus out of the battery cover. This one was $80. The next dot sight I get, I'll probably do it right and get one of the $250-$400 Eotech or Eotech clones. I still am optimistic about this Bushnell scope though; I'll leave it on it's bullseye reticle and just enjoy it that way.

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Mine actually was misaligned... I put a laser bore sighter in and them measured the difference in point of aim. It was easy to see that the point of aim wandered with respect to the boresighter's dot as I switched through the reticles.

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I've not seen a Multi-Reticle type red dot that was worth a dayum. Not one.
If you want a cheap Red Dot that is good and solid, TruGlo makes a decent one. Not as clear and sharp as higher end units, but they are built pretty tough You can get one for 50 bucks.

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I've not seen a Multi-Reticle type red dot that was worth a dayum. Not one.If you want a cheap Red Dot that is good and solid, TruGlo makes a decent one. Not as clear and sharp as higher end units, but they are built pretty tough You can get one for 50 bucks.

Does that go for those Eotechs even (maybe I have the name wrong, but I mean those $450 holosight things that I believe have different reticles at the touch of a button). If the reticles are mechanically switched in and out it's easy to see how misalignments could occur. I was hoping that something like a higher end holosight or the military-grade ones were solid state or something where they're all equally well-aligned.

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Eotech has had issues and has lost a big military contract because of it - as I understand.

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If you're going to spend $250-$400 I'd go with an Aimpoint. I've never liked Eotechs. Too many controls. Aimpoint has one dial to turn it on and off. The same dial adjusts the intensity of the dot.

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I generally like Bushnell just fine, it sounds like this particular model sucks. Maybe try a different Bushnell product?

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I generally like Bushnell just fine, it sounds like this particular model sucks. Maybe try a different Bushnell product?

-tom-the-impaler

Naw, they have it now and I'll let 'em do whatever to it and see how it works after that. 3-4 weeks processing time and shipping both ways, this is almost as bad as waiting for Rossi to fix my cheapo 357 snubbie that kept breaking. Well, not as bad as that.

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I know a lot of guys who swear by their Eotechs. Needless to say, they had to buy them they're not issued. From what I understand the issue (that got sorted) out was a battery compartment issue that arose with rough use.
Everybody who has the 68, the issue Aimpoint, likes it. And they're bombproof.
I got to wring out one of these recently, and it was very impressive;

http://www.aimpoint.com/o.o.i.s?id=67&prev_id=67&product_id=375

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